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Hi Guys,has anyone of u used MIXMEISTER FUSION yet,if so what do you think of it.I personally think the concept and idea

behind it is good but lacks alot.What do you think?
QUOTE(dj butterfingers @ Feb 16 2011, 08:14 AM) [snapback]71906[/snapback]
Hi Guys,has anyone of u used MIXMEISTER FUSION yet,if so what do you think of it.I personally think the concept and idea

behind it is good but lacks alot.What do you think?


Are you looking for something to use in live performance? I use MixMeister (MM) Studio for crafting radio shows and while it is not flawless, it is excellent for that purpose; I know ppl who use it live who feel the same ...

There are definitely issues with the Mac versions, and there is very little evidence of on-going product development other than "apps" now that Numark owns the company, but for people who are running the last-released stable versions of Fusion or Studio for PC, it operates excellently.

Did you have a specific question?
QUOTE(dj butterfingers @ Feb 16 2011, 04:14 PM) [snapback]71906[/snapback]
Hi Guys,has anyone of u used MIXMEISTER FUSION yet,if so what do you think of it.I personally think the concept and idea

behind it is good but lacks alot.What do you think?



Hi there,

Great question. I am currently using Mixmeister Fusion (MMF), personally i think it is a great software to use when you want to perfect your mix or tweak around with intros...outros...etc. Which you can do it on your free time. I agree with you that for live sets, it is not as user friendly.

Prefer Ableton Live. It is my prefrence. But with so many softwares out there, it is up to your own liking....smile.gif
MMF is a great DAW but it takes some time to get familiar with the program. Good for studio djs but not so for live djs.
Depends on your intended use I suppose.. MMF is a great software if you want to whip up a mix really quick. Don't plan on composing tracks or remixes on the program though. Only allows 4 tracks simultaniously so not that flexible IMO compared to programs like Ableton.
If your just starting out and want to use software give the new M-Audio a try they offer a 30day free trial.

I'm in the process of downloading so will give it a try and get back to you on my thoughts.


Here is the link http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Torq20.html


Well I downloaded it and gave it a go, Not bad at all, you can remap it too which is a plus. capable of running 4 tracks at once and 13 effects plus you can add extra if you have vst's , Loop and cue set points and can be used standalone or with any hardware. (once remapped)


Give it a go I recommend this before using mix master
All is One
Like MadameFLY, above, I also use Mixmeister, and I echo her reply above, although she's got a few years use on the product beyond mine. I've been using the MM line since around 2002, as I recall, having started out with Mixmeister 3. Moved from version three to MMPro 5 and then MMPro 6, then on to the Fusion release.

I'm a big fan of the product, but unfortunately, in the last couple of years, product development has severely slipped to the point where I would no longer recommend any current version of the line. Mixmeister, as an independent company, was bought out by Numark in Spring, 2007 and the MM Line began a subsequent painful decline in application reliability and robustness about 18 months after, much to the dismay of all of us in the user base, and particularly to those of us who have cherished the software over the years.

The last stable releases of the product that I care to recommend came out in Spring and Summer of 2008. Respectively those are:

Mixmeister Studio 7.2.2 for PC (suitable for studio mix production and limited remix production)
Mixmeister Fusion 7.3.2 for PC (suitable for the above, plus live performance and was released concomitantly with the Mixmeister Control Board for additional flexibility in live performance)

I have utilized versions of MMPro through Fusion in live performance for nearly 7 years. I have been particularly happy with Fusion 7.3.2 that I currently use in live performance, paid gigs here in Chicago with the Mixmeister Control Board that I have (which is a prototype--dated April 2008--to the mass-production release model--came out in fall 2008).

According to statements released by Numark, they are currently engaged in a reworking of the software code to deal with issues that have arisen in the development of the code over the past several years. So, I remain hopeful that the result of this work will be a fully functional, updated release that fixes all known major issues.

Meanwhile, I am quite happy with Fusion 7.3.2, and no matter what happens to the product down the road, I am comfortable with utilizing my kit as is for the forseeable future.

If need be, I would probably follow Dr. sY's recommendation, which I have also received from others, which would be to move to M-Audio's Ableton Live product line.

If you are serious about purchasing/utilizing the MM Studio or Fusion lines, I would contact Numark directly and request direct access to one of the above mentioned releases.


QUOTE(Dj Tahp @ May 7 2011, 03:11 AM) [snapback]73602[/snapback]
Depends on your intended use I suppose.. MMF is a great software if you want to whip up a mix really quick. Don't plan on composing tracks or remixes on the program though. Only allows 4 tracks simultaniously so not that flexible IMO compared to programs like Ableton.


One correction here. Studio and Fusion actually allow up to eight (8) simultaneous "strips" but the software defaults to 4 unless you change the settings utilizing the "strip" button. However, a "strip" is not precisely the same as a track, as the "strips" can overlap significantly, resulting in more extended possibilities beyond what would be accomplished via 8 traditional tracks.

Effectively, you can do some production remixing with the software if you know what you are doing, but it is not designed for extensive compositional work, that is true.
QUOTE(tepmix @ May 17 2011, 05:59 AM) [snapback]73840[/snapback]
One correction here. Studio and Fusion actually allow up to eight (8) simultaneous "strips" but the software defaults to 4 unless you change the settings utilizing the "strip" button. However, a "strip" is not precisely the same as a track, as the "strips" can overlap significantly, resulting in more extended possibilities beyond what would be accomplished via 8 traditional tracks.


I just want to enlarge on the subject of strips a bit more, based on some work I did that proved enlightening.

MixMeister (MM) went to the "strips" display in order to better support the use of a hardware controller. In general, this did not impact the program except visually ... instead of a continuous display of the timeline (like an unrolling papyrus, for instance) you see a series of strips (you can option to view 2, 4, 6, or 8 at a time) that work their was down the screen, then the view jumps back up to the top and begins again. Some users liked the 'continuous' view much better, but mostly understand there was a hardware reason for the change.

There were also some changes to performance with regard to the use of 'overlays' however:
--If you are working with overlays, you will not be able to use the 2-strip view, because it can't accommodate the minimum of 3 elements required to illustrate e.g., a transition which uses an overlay.
--Using multiple overlays is now limited to a maximum of (I believe) 8 applied to any single 'standard' (e.g. non-overlay)track, again due to the display limitations. .

HTH
yeah fusion is good at what it does, unique in some respects. I like it but wouldn't use it for a live performance...Im still a firm believer in people learning how to mix with more traditional medias, but don't look down my nose at purely digital djs. I have given up buying vinyl now and switched to wav files. I used mixmeister for paradise city my latest mix uploaded yesterday, my turntables are packed away and so is the studio so yeah its great for progging sets and sharing some great tunes , one of it's greatest strengths is easy loop editing....get it !
I've been using MM products since 2005, way before Numark took hold and (IMHO) shelved it in order to promote what they believe will make them more money - Apple Apps such as the abysmal idj product.

I use Fusion 7.4.4 and have had no problems using it live in club/village hall/internet radio settings. I generally use it as a basic mix tool ( i.e. track A into track B ) when playing live, with the odd bit of cut n paste lunacy for good measure.

Where it comes into it's own for me (and wins out over Ableton Live - again IMHO) is in the ability to create 'studio style' power mixes of the sort I used to have to painstakingly piece together using multitrack recorders back in the day

I still love using Fusion, even though I'm on the learning curve with 2/3 other products (some of which utilise timecode CD/Vinyl so I can keep the old skool skills up to scratch so to speak!smile and whenever the Mix bug takes me it's always Fusion I turn to first!

I have history with both Tepmix & MmeFly and know that they both know what they are talkign about - nice to see some familiar faces here. biggrin.gif

R.
I really like the edit mp3 tag fucnction
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................I have history with both Tepmix & MmeFly and know that they both know what they are talkign about - nice to see some familiar faces here. biggrin.gif

R.


Roy! Hey! Great to see you here biggrin.gif

There has been some renewed indication of progress on the loooooooooooong-awaited update for MM Fusion/Studio ... this is based on some recent communications from Simon on the Forum and his Twitter ... we shall see. It would be nice, I suppose, for all those Mac users to finally get something they can run w/o tears. I'm still hoping to see a few Wish List items appear, but then I'm such a blinkin' optimist tongue.gif

MmeFLY

The learningcurve for MMF is short, you have a great tool to try different tunes together without the "Hassle" to open och use the booth, even if this is where u wanna be thumbsup.gif

I think this is a wonderful instrument for newcomer djs that lack the routine and ear for the music and how it should be mixed
you can try out several ways to mix and manipulate the sound.

But as a transport and mixing consule for djs, naah i think i'll skip that train, radio maybe, but for semi och pro djs that spin in a club, No oo oo Fu**ing way.

YES - As a tool for learning and analysing the music, feeling the beat and how 2 or 4 trax should sound together
NO - Djs at a club or Venue

My thoughts on the subjuct

Cheers

/Martin
Music is life, life is music